Comments on Bits in Motion: Announcing Gallio and MbUnit v3.0.4

The most recent daily build (3.0.4.523) resolved t...

2008-11-11T12:52:00.000-08:00

The most recent daily build (3.0.4.523) resolved the R# issue. Nicely done!

@Philip,That test should definitely fail, even in ...

2008-11-10T19:32:00.000-08:00

@Philip,
That test should definitely fail, even in R#.

Since v3.0.4 was released, we have made a number of improvements to the robustness of the R# runner.

Please try one of the recent nightly builds from http://ccnet.gallio.org/Distributables or wait for v3.0.5 to be released within the next few days.

@Dave,I find that MSBuild error very puzzling sinc...

2008-11-10T19:27:00.000-08:00

@Dave,
I find that MSBuild error very puzzling since TaskLoggingHelper in MSBuild v2 does indeed have that method.

In fact, we deliberately build against MSBuild v2 libraries.

That said, I haven't checked whether the method was actually added in v2.0 SP1. Could be.

When I run this test in R# via Gallio: [Tes...

2008-11-09T21:35:00.000-08:00

When I run this test in R# via Gallio:
[Test]
public void Should_Fail_This_Test()
{
Assert.Fail();
}

it passes. when I run it in the gallio test runner, it fails as expected. Are there still issues with R#?

"Supports 640bit architectures."Wow, THAT'S what I...

2008-11-09T17:00:00.000-08:00

"Supports 640bit architectures."

Wow, THAT'S what I call Future-Proof :P

You might mention that .NET 3.5 is required to run...

2008-11-07T16:54:00.000-08:00

You might mention that .NET 3.5 is required to run the MSBuild tasks --
error MSB4018: The "Gallio" task failed unexpectedly.
error MSB4018: System.MissingMethodException: Method not found: 'Void Microsoft.Build.Utilities.TaskLoggingHelper.LogErrorFromException(System.Exception, Boolean, Boolean, System.String)'.
error MSB4018: at Gallio.MSBuildTasks.Gallio.Execute()
error MSB4018: at Microsoft.Build.BuildEngine.TaskEngine.ExecuteTask(ExecutionMode howToExecuteTask, Hashtable projectItemsAvailableToTask, BuildPropertyGroup projectPropertiesAvailableToTask, Boolean& taskClassWasFound)

@Jeff. Greate release! I am more than satisfied wi...

2008-10-29T08:26:00.000-07:00

@Jeff.
Greate release! I am more than satisfied with what is done in Gallio so far.

On the way of moving from MbUnit2.4 to MbUnit3 I found a road block that took me about 30 minutes to workaround. There is an issue/problem with integration of Gallio and VSTS2008, basically it is required to "turn a project into test project". It is described by Michael Herndon here.

Can we expect some improvements in this area in the near future? It would be great if Gallio could find MbUnit test fixtures without having to edit project files.

Templates are installed by default. You should fi...

2008-10-22T12:48:00.000-07:00

Templates are installed by default. You should find templates like "MbUnit v3 Fixture" in the C# and VB sections of the Add New Item dialog.

How do I get templates in Visual Studio for MbUnit...

2008-10-22T06:54:00.000-07:00

How do I get templates in Visual Studio for MbUnit?

@DevTron,You're looking at the old MbUnit v2.4 doc...

2008-10-19T21:21:00.000-07:00

@DevTron,
You're looking at the old MbUnit v2.4 documentation which apparently contains some inconsistencies.

Check out the v3.0.4 documentation instead:

http://www.gallio.org/Docs.aspx.

Hello,I re-checked the online documentation, which...

2008-10-19T19:38:00.000-07:00

Hello,

I re-checked the online documentation, which is all I have to go with. One would assume that they are "basically just inverse of one another" but we all know what assumptions do.

In that respect, can you double check if I am crazy or not?

http://docs.mbunit.com/help/html/M_MbUnit_Framework_Assert_IsEmpty_2_9496d360.htm

Assert..::IsEmpty Method (ICollection, String):
Assert that an array, list or other collection is empty

http://docs.mbunit.com/help/html/M_MbUnit_Framework_Assert_IsNotEmpty_3_8d3d3ccf.htm

Assert..::IsNotEmpty Method (ICollection, String, array xObject>[]()[])
Assert that an array, list or other collection is empty

If you look at the links above, they both have the same exact description, which is: "Assert that an array, list or other collection is empty ".

I was having some problems with some DB Unit Tests someone here wrote, and while debugging the problem ran across this issue with the documentation.

It is confusing for me that something would even be named "IsNotEmpty". One would *assume* IsEmpty would handle the scenario, and that IsNotEmpty is redundant. I may very well be wrong but we could not have a final say over the matter.

I think I ended up using something other than Assert for my solution (I cant even remember), but I had this debate with a few guys I work with here in Australia and I just wanted to point it out to someone on the MbUnit development team.

Am I crazy or do they have the same definitions? Is one wrong, or is there redundant functionality in the MbUnit framework?

Jeff, congratulation on releasing v3.0.4 and thank...

2008-10-17T17:41:00.000-07:00

Jeff, congratulation on releasing v3.0.4 and thanks for the credit. You almost spelled my first name correctly.:)

@Steve Bohlen,Out of the box there is a NAnt task,...

2008-10-17T14:00:00.000-07:00

@Steve Bohlen,
Out of the box there is a NAnt task, an MSBuild task, a PowerShell cmdlet, and a command-line runner any of which can be used to integrate with a CI build process.

Pick your poison. ;-)

@libor,You might consider reading some of the othe...

2008-10-17T03:59:00.000-07:00

@libor,
You might consider reading some of the other contributors' blogs. Although Jeff commits 95% of the job ;), they sometimes write about things occurring behind the scene, such as new features and work in progress. Look at the links in the Gallio Credit page.

This is tremendous work -- I can't wait to get som...

2008-10-17T03:58:00.000-07:00

This is tremendous work -- I can't wait to get some time to dig deep into most of this.

One Q tho about something I don't see mentioned in the feature list: we use CI as a core foundation of a lot of our practice and so NANT integration is something that we really need. Its really more about MbUnit features rather than Gallio (the runner) but is there a NANT task out-of-the-box for MbUnit 3.x all ready to go or no?

@devtron:Are you sure? I just checked and the des...

2008-10-17T00:21:00.000-07:00

@devtron:
Are you sure? I just checked and the descriptions are different.

Assert.IsEmpty: "Verifies that an actual value contains no elements."

Assert.IsNotEmpty: "Verifies that an actual value contains at least one element."

They are basically just inverses of one another.

What is the difference between: Assert.IsEmpty and...

2008-10-16T22:52:00.000-07:00

What is the difference between: Assert.IsEmpty and Assert.IsNotEmpty.

They both have the same definition in their descriptions. Is this a documentation bug, or are they duplicate functions? Hmmmmmmm...

Very nice!

2008-10-16T17:10:00.000-07:00

Very nice!

@Borek,The whole alpha / beta thing got too confus...

2008-10-16T11:10:00.000-07:00

@Borek,
The whole alpha / beta thing got too confusing in the end due to scope creep so I dropped it.

In any case, this release is pretty much feature-complete.

Looks great, I'm excited to try this.

2008-10-16T08:08:00.000-07:00

Looks great, I'm excited to try this.

Great news. So this release is considered beta?

2008-10-16T07:10:00.000-07:00

Great news. So this release is considered beta?

Seriously good stuff. Well done guys :)

2008-10-16T07:05:00.000-07:00

Seriously good stuff. Well done guys :)

I'll certainly try to post more often. And not ju...

2008-10-16T06:18:00.000-07:00

I'll certainly try to post more often. And not just about releases... :-)

very impressive overview, keep it upbut one thing ...

2008-10-16T06:14:00.000-07:00

very impressive overview, keep it up
but one thing guys, please, post more often so we know what's
going on behind the scene. don't keep us in the dark :)